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[*] posted on 9/24/2008 at 10:06 PM
Steep Drop In Earnings


Has anyone else experienced a steep drop in their earnings with AD Groups? If so, did your website ever recover and what did you do to supplement your income during this dry spell?
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[*] posted on 9/25/2008 at 11:39 PM


Wow this is sort of taboo to ask other publishers in a public forum (thats nunovyadangbiznazz).

Earnings in summer months and December/Jan can be somewhat lower from any ad networks. It's seasonal and don't even get me started on the economy.

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[*] posted on 9/26/2008 at 12:00 AM


Hello MrMecca,


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Wow this is sort of taboo to ask other publishers in a public forum (thats nunovyadangbiznazz).


That's why this forum was created... So black webmasters can come and discuss the in/outs of ad networks... See no reason why it would be wrong to let one know if one is being low balled literally... Doesn't matter if the ad network is black owned or not... We all have to eat, and have families to support period...

Wouldn't you agree? :yes:


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[*] posted on 9/26/2008 at 12:12 AM


Not really. I don't think its ever ok to discuss earnings with others in a public forum (do you walk around your job taking the same survey?)

I think that all situations aren't unique when it comes to ad networks of all kinds because not all sites are created equal. We're a 7 figure earning company across our 15 sites but that's because our presentation and quality audience allows us to charge a high CPM for sponsorships
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[*] posted on 6/21/2009 at 04:35 PM


I take back everything I said about this company last year. I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that this company is a sham. For the last 9 months or so I have been paid every other month and routinely get lied to when I ask why my payments are late or why I am basically on schedule to be paid six times a year rather than twelve. At first I thought it was just me but with a bit of digging I discovered hordes of publishers being given lame excuses as to why their payments are routinely late or often do not show up at all. I personally have not been paid in nearly three months even though I keep being told the payment has been sent out.

Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
Adgroups.com is a ripoff and doesn't pay it's publishers.
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[*] posted on 6/21/2009 at 05:46 PM


Hello Shavonne,


Sorry to see this company seems to be about cheating black webmasters at this time... One shouldn't have to beg for the money they rightfully earned... Let this be a wake up call for many...


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[*] posted on 7/2/2009 at 05:22 PM


Its crazy how you guys try to rip on companies when a call to customer support in any situation will usually rectify things (and even in the case of AdGroups they give everyone a direct beeline to all senior executives at the company including the CEO). We too have been seeing later than expected payments but nothing earth shattering from all of our ad networks (delays about 1-3 weeks). I know they (adgroups) are migrating away from paypal because of issues with that system. We're on direct deposit with them now (as of last month) and payments come within 2 days of the strike date of payment.

Have i been a little under angst for later than expected payments -- sure sometimes
Has a call rectified things -- yes i got full disclosure on the migration from paypal and a direct deposit form to fill out via the internet

I actually have a personal friend that was participating with an ad netowrk for months and never turned in a w-9 which was the reason his payments were held -- he looked in his spam and there were over 10 requests for that information -- too crazy -- reason that im telling this story is that sometimes your problem could be isolated to a few instance (and in the case of adgroups its them migrating away from paypal)

At the end of the day id never vent my fustrations on a 3rd party website about another company (and if i did - it sure wouldnt be anonymous) -- gets you no where

So far so good for us since switching to direct deposit and the really nice campaigns keep on coming in

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[*] posted on 10/26/2009 at 10:13 PM
I Learned The Hard Way


Adgroups has agreements with sites like Love B Scott, The YBF and Concrete Loop. In order to keep these high traffic high profile sites in their network they have agreed to pay them at least X amount of dollars each month. Many ad networks have such agreements and this is why you guys are no longer making the money you used to make. With increased competition from BET, Gorilla Nation and the Real Black Network, Adgroups had to find a way to keep their biggest publishers on board and agreeing to pay them a set amount a month, often in excess of $10,000 a month, was just the way to do that. Whatever inventory Adgroups gets goes to those biggest publishers and the smaller sites get the leftovers, if there are any.

Ad networks are not the way to go. Publishers need to wise up and find a way, any way they can, to sell their own inventory.
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